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Jan 07, 2012, 09:31 PM // 21:31
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: May 2010
Guild: HSBC
Profession: W/
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- pretty high req/low dmg - dropped may 2008
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Jan 07, 2012, 10:50 PM // 22:50
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Badly Influenced
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread)
Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish
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Jan 12, 2012, 06:05 PM // 18:05
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#403 |
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: May 2010
Guild: HSBC
Profession: W/
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ok, finally got to put last two weeks drops into one image. I guess finding the real lowest ends of DMG is rly hard. Furthermore I´d say that there is no evidence that inherent and inscribable sources dropped different ranges for certain req. therefore my suggestion would be to merge them together which would make the OP by far smaller. About gold drops: I´m sure every weapon can drop down to q4 in max DMG for q4. I have only seen one q3 gold weapon though - firefighter´s daggers. Purple can drop in no requirement, have seen down to 10-14 Hammer, 7-9 sword (means all base stats 1 below highest for q0).
okies that´s it so far. screens: I marked inherent source items green, inscribable source items red, just in case u want to stick to ins/inh seperation. (just imo on the one hand our research has led us to this conclusion and on the other hand yawgmoth also came to this conclusion which means it is just like that  Link )This staff is inherent source as well. And it damn high req... 
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Jan 12, 2012, 09:56 PM // 21:56
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#404 |
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Badly Influenced
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread)
Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish
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Thanks for the feedback and the new data!
I'm inclined to agree now, too - between Yawg's claims and what we've seen from folks' own reports here, there really does not seem to be a difference between inscribable and inherent loot when it comes to the ranges of stuff GW can produce today. Years ago, I seem to recall a working theory that it was only inscribable shields and swords which could still drop max in r8. That theory was the main reason I pushed to keep the split in the OP table - there's nothing like raw data to prove or disprove theories. Does anyone object to or disagree with taking the inscribable/inherent source area split out of the OP? If so, please do explain the reason(s) you're for keeping them both tracked! |
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Jan 13, 2012, 11:41 PM // 23:41
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#405 |
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Oct 2010
Guild: AKA
Profession: Mo/R
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Hope this is better than my last attempt at making the list.
Realized I have a low damage inscribable r8 axe.  Hope this is correct. |
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Jan 14, 2012, 07:18 PM // 19:18
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#406 |
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2008
Guild: Lord of purple
Profession: E/
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OK! So I went and looked through the mountains of junk that I have and came up with a few things. Firstly, I'm pretty sure everything in the following picture beats what you currently have listed, or in some cases there is nothing at all and I felt there should be a place holder. Some of this stuff I do not believe is the lowest possible, nor do I think a couple of them are even close. Even so, always can use a good starting point right? Do read the picture, left to right by rows and move down; it should be alphabetical by weapon type (except for focus' which I named offhands) Also, I think a couple of these may overlap with the stuff Red Fireball posted a couple posts prior to this one, but oh well (Like literally the same weapon because I traded him for them
 )Click the button for some rambling and...lets call it theory crafting EDIT: I think the split for non-insc and insc stuff should no longer be split. I think it only matters for pre-NF stuff, and tracking that will be next to impossible I think |
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Jan 15, 2012, 01:16 PM // 13:16
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#407 |
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Nov 2005
Guild: WTB: q8 bows
Profession: R/N
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A guildmate just got this from a sensali on noob island I think this is now the lowest dmg on a q9 hammer if the first page is up to date.
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Jan 16, 2012, 06:28 AM // 06:28
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#408 |
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Badly Influenced
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread)
Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish
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Thanks for all the contributions!
If you're not certain that an item you're posting dropped after NF's release, please be clear about that with your reply! When posting examples of minimum stat stuff, please post either inscribable items (or items with skins we know drop only in NF and/or EotN) or things you are certain dropped after NF's release. I'm not particularly inclined to track the low side of the preNF range. I don't even know if it was any different than today's range. When posting examples of skins that exist in gold, please post only items you are positive (or it is obvious) are post-NF drops. If you're posting something that could have dropped before NF's release (either you're not sure when it dropped, or you're positive it's older than NF) please make that obvious. My intent with the gold tracking is to see if there's a lower limit now on what reqs can drop in gold-text. We've seen r0 inscribable purple and blue things, so I think it's safe to assume there is no limit on what reqs can drop in those colors. Here are some recent example shots I took. I will update the OP soon, hopefully. Low-stat items for the req.:  Modern gold-drop items:  EDIT - Thanks to i dealer i for showing me the following and agreeing to let me use the picture. It's a gold r8 Spear (inscribable and post NF, of course.)  EDIT - Jan. 23, 2012 - Some from my recent screenshot folder (before I work on updating OP) 
Last edited by LicensedLuny; Jan 23, 2012 at 02:44 AM // 02:44.. |
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Jan 16, 2012, 11:17 AM // 11:17
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#409 |
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Belgium
Guild: Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD大]
Profession: E/
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I had a pair of q12 7-16 Jade Daggers drop for me uninscribably yesterday, I didn't know you updated the thread though, so you'll have to take my word for it. I found it peculiar, so I remembered.
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Jan 17, 2012, 04:43 AM // 04:43
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#410 |
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Oct 2010
Guild: AKA
Profession: Mo/R
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These all dropped for me in Divinity Coast yesterday. Terrible stats for the req.
    I'm assuming you are still collecting stats for whites, based on some of your prior screenshots. If that's not the case then please ignore. |
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Jan 23, 2012, 03:28 AM // 03:28
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#411 |
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Badly Influenced
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread)
Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish
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List updated up to and including post 399, page 20, Jan. 7, 2012. List updated up to and including post 410, page 21, Jan. 23, 2012. Major Changes
New records from replies posted since the last update (Compiled by hand because Guru's compare post version feature was not working. There may be errors or omissions.)
The contents of the OP before this update when we stopped tracking both inherent and inscribable source records is in this button. Last edited by LicensedLuny; Jan 23, 2012 at 05:28 PM // 17:28.. |
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Jan 25, 2012, 11:17 PM // 23:17
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#412 |
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Badly Influenced
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread)
Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish
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Some drops from the adventures of Jan. 25, 2012 ...
 Mins - r4 Bow: 9-13 r5 Daggers: 4-8 r0 Daggers: 2-4 r4 Wand: 7-11 EDIT - Jan. 26's drops worth picturing.  We "know" there's a hard cap of 17% HSR on white and blue staffs and a hard cap of 20% HSR on purple and gold staffs for max-statted staffs. I'm wondering if there's a difference between the HSR possible on white/blue vs. purple/gold staffs at the low end of the range and at lower reqs, too, so I'm trying to keep examples of best and worst from both categories. Mins - r7 Sword: 11-15 r7 Axe: 5-14 r5 Axe: 5-11 r10 Bow: 12-22 r9 Bow: 11-19 r5 Bow: 10-15 r7 Daggers: 5-10 r4 Daggers: 5-10 gold r4 Daggers, assigned drop r2 Daggers: 4-8 r5 Shield: 9ar r11 Staff, purple: 16/9/11-21 r11 Staff, white: 17/10/10-19 r5 Staff, blue: 12/6/6-10 r0 Staff, purple: 13/5/6-9 r0 Staff, purple: 12/6/7-10 r10 Wand: 9-16 r7 Wand: 8-13 r2 Wand: 7-11 r4 Focus: 6en r3 Focus: 7en (Yeah, clearly the one right above it means this can't be the min. for r3. But I figure maybe people are more likely to post to break an existing record than they are to enter an unclaimed record. So there - break my record!) Maxes - r5 staff, white: 15/8/10-16 r4 staff, white: 14/7/9-15 r0 staff, blue: 12/6/7-10 Last edited by LicensedLuny; Jan 26, 2012 at 04:08 PM // 16:08.. |
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Jan 27, 2012, 07:18 PM // 19:18
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#413 |
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Hi there Luny!
First of all, thank you for your initiative. Many of us are interested in these kind of things, so keep up the good work. As a contribution, here are some min values for some weapons. Probably not the lowest possible, but we must start at some point :P Oh, btw, I find taking screens of items on the groud unconfortable, so those are taken from inventory, but all of them have been taken today (guess it's pretty obvious I haven't been keeping unidentified grapes for years  )Here are the differences with the current results so you can decide if they're worth adding. White piercing axe Q7 -> New min damage 5-13 Purple granite hammer Q5 -> New min dmg 9-14 Blue banded spear Q4 -> New min dmg 8-12 (cannot be the lowest considering the min damage in Q5 but meh) Purple wooden buckler Q10 -> New min AR 14 Purple inscribed staff Q10 -> New min dmg 10-18 Gold inscribed staff Q11 -> New min energy 9e (Already in your prev. post) Purple water staff Q10 -> New min HSR 15% Purple holy branch Q5 -> New min energy 5e Gold earth wand Q10 -> New min dmg 10-19 Beaten on your prev. post White holy rod Q3 -> New min dmg 7-10 Purple inscribed chackram Q9-> New min energy 10e From second img: Flatbow Q6 -> New min dmg 8-13 Truncheon Q8 -> New min dmg 9-15 Shortsword Q7 -> New min dmg 10-13 Longbow Q8 -> New min dmg 10-16 Divine symbol Q6 -> New min energy 7e Jeweled chackram Q7 -> New min energy 7e And a couple more: Copperleaf shiel Q7 -> New min AR 10 Dead bow Q5 -> New min dmg 8-12 Rusty Machete Q9 -> New min dmg 11-15 Butterfly sword Q5 -> New min dmg 7-9 I will try to add more soon  ED: Fixed some, added some more Last edited by Lhoj; Jan 29, 2012 at 11:34 AM // 11:34.. |
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Jan 29, 2012, 03:20 PM // 15:20
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#414 |
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Belgium
Guild: Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD大]
Profession: E/
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14-28 q13 gold bow, dropped for me today from chestrunning vermin
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Jan 29, 2012, 11:36 PM // 23:36
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Badly Influenced
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread)
Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish
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Regarding Staffs:
We know (well, Yawg said it, so that's about as close to certainty when it comes to GW loot that I know of short of screenshots of everything that ever dropped) that white and blue staffs have a cap of 17% HSR for "max staffs" while the 20% HSR shows up only on purple and gold staffs. I'm curious if that same difference-by-color HSR limit applies to the minimums and to lower req. gear, too. For example,
If you're also curious about that please do feel free to keep an eye out and post shots, too! (As always, even if you're not positive you've got a new record, go ahead and post it. At worst, it doesn't get added to the OP. By not posting it, at worst, we all miss out on finding an actual new record/limit. That second "worst" is way worse imo. )Quote:
Unless we're talking about something really groundbreaking I'm not particularly worried that people who bother to read and contribute to this thread would make stuff up. For cases like, "I'm certain this blue wand was from the loot from my recent vanquish, but I didn't notice it until I was at the merchant going through my loot," I have no issue taking folks at their word! So the way you're doing it is fine - as long as you're certain it's recent (and you express such in your post) and it doesn't appear to break any pattern visible from other contributions, we're all good. I would love to get proof that something really unexpected and rare still drops, love it! But for such really unexpected cases, I hope it's understandable that most of the folks here, myself included, will be doubtful unless it comes with an incredibly convincing screenshot at the very least. That picture of max r8 inscribable daggers Dimm found us on wartower ... I wasn't active when he posted that here, but I had the same reaction a lot of folks who posted then did, too; "I'll believe that when we see it in a trade window." To this day, I still run into players who swear max r8 or even max r7 versions of every item can still drop. My reaction is always the same. " If that's true, whoot! I think that would entice so many folks to come back and play if they believed it, too! I don't have access to the game's source code or a view of every item that ever drops for every player, so I'm not going to confirm or deny such a claim. I'm just going to gather screenshots. Here's a link to the thread. PLEASE show us all screenshots when you get these things drop! Pretty please?" They've all responded to me either that they didn't get the drop themselves, they can't be bothered, they don't want to crash the low req weapon market prices, or not responded at all. I don't always doubt the guy's sincerity, but I always wind up doubting his accuracy. Sorry. Some shots from yesterday's adventures:  r11 Staff, white: 17/10/10-20 already beaten by a lower-statted purple r10 15/9/10-19 Staff from Lhoj's post above. (didn't notice it until after I put the picture together, sorry.) r6 Staff, blue: 15/8/9-15 - in case 15HSR is the highest white/blue for r6 Staff so far r9 Wand: 9-15 - maybe new min for r9 wand Last edited by cosyfiep; Feb 07, 2012 at 10:49 AM // 10:49.. Reason: staves please luny! |
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Jan 30, 2012, 05:01 PM // 17:01
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#416 |
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Yep, I find it hard to believe q7-8 max weapons still drop, not saying they don't, but it's strange there are no screens yet.
Anyway, here are some more screens. Some of the golds were identified by a guildmate before I noticed they weren't reported yet. Concerning that, I think we should automaticaly change all the items q7 or so and up to "Drops in gold", as I think all of we know a r12/13 scythe can drop in gold even if we haven't taken any screen yet. That's common knowledge. Have no time to check if they've been reported since last update (maybe I reported something similar myself xD) so here's the list, hope they're useful. Q7 Bow (white): 10-15 Q3 Hammer (purple): 10-15 Q12 Sword (purple) 14-21 Q10 Staff (gold): 17/9/9-17 Q11 wand: Drops in gold Q8 Shield: Drops in gold Q8 Staff (purple): 17/8/9-15 Q10 bow (Gold): 12-22 Q10 staff (purple): 16/8/9-16 Q10 shield: Drops in gold Q13 axe: Drops in gold Q12 Staff: Drops in gold |
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Feb 02, 2012, 08:49 AM // 08:49
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Badly Influenced
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread)
Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish
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The problem is we're not quite sure where the limit is (or if there even is a limit.) I think/hope that over time, it will be easy enough to get pictures for most of the "common knowledge" stuff that still drops. That's when the patterns of what reqs are pretty rare (and maybe impossible) to still find dropping in gold show up. That's what I'm hoping for in the end. Fred's earlier proposal about tracking stat ranges by color in addition to req. level is intriguing, but I can't think of a way to shape that into a list or table on the OP without it becoming too complicated a list to reference when playing. I figure the OP needs to be easy to read as you go around fighting or merching/salving the loot from your recent adventure; otherwise people aren't likely to bother. Keeping an example "proof" for each item and req in gold isn't hurting anyone other than the OP steward (currently me) with a few more lines to edit with each update, right? Is there something I'm missing? (And I'll admit it did cross my mind that it might inspire more people who lurk this thread to come post some pictures for us. Sneaky, manipulative of me? Maybe so ... but with the best intentions!) Quote:
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Feb 02, 2012, 11:55 AM // 11:55
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Belgium
Guild: Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD大]
Profession: E/
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q7 max simply doesn't drop anymore. |
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Feb 06, 2012, 06:20 PM // 18:20
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#419 |
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: GMT +2
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q11 sword 13-18
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Feb 06, 2012, 10:56 PM // 22:56
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#420 |
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Academy Page
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Jersey
Guild: Oath of Fire [Oath]
Profession: E/
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I'm not sure anyone else beat this shield for high req/low armor, but i have a Ar 14 Req 10 Strength shield (gold and Inscribable).
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